1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,160 All right. 2 00:00:13,460 --> 00:00:14,460 Oh, 3 00:00:16,219 --> 00:00:17,220 okay. 4 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,780 Hi. Come on in. 5 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,840 Hello. Hi. I'm Billy. 6 00:00:32,180 --> 00:00:34,620 I'm Bailey and Jamie. Jamie. 7 00:00:34,860 --> 00:00:38,960 Pleasure to meet you. Do you two want to have a seat right here? 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,059 Thank you. 9 00:00:41,060 --> 00:00:42,060 All right. 10 00:00:42,140 --> 00:00:44,800 Just going over my notes here after you called. 11 00:00:46,020 --> 00:00:49,180 My first session, I would like to take a minute to introduce myself. 12 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,200 My name is Dr. Penny Barber. 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,960 I've been practicing family therapy for a few years now. 14 00:00:57,580 --> 00:01:01,660 I've been based out of this office for a while, and I love what I do. 15 00:01:03,220 --> 00:01:04,220 Let me think. 16 00:01:04,340 --> 00:01:07,600 Do you have any questions for me? I know you've kind of, like, been through my 17 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:08,900 website and Jamie and I. 18 00:01:09,390 --> 00:01:11,490 set up our meeting for today. 19 00:01:12,150 --> 00:01:13,210 No, nothing specific. 20 00:01:13,410 --> 00:01:14,410 Do you have any questions? 21 00:01:14,790 --> 00:01:18,850 No. Okay. Well, it is nice to meet both of you. You too. Thank you. 22 00:01:19,110 --> 00:01:23,950 So you're the mother -son couple? 23 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:29,670 Yeah. Okay. All right. I do a lot of mother -son counseling. 24 00:01:31,110 --> 00:01:36,450 It's kind of a specialty of mine. So I'm glad to have you here and hope we can 25 00:01:36,450 --> 00:01:37,970 help with whatever is going on. 26 00:01:39,550 --> 00:01:43,030 Jamie, do you want to tell me a little bit about yourself? Are you married? Are 27 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:44,030 you divorced? 28 00:01:44,090 --> 00:01:46,170 Well, I'm just currently divorced. 29 00:01:47,450 --> 00:01:51,870 His father left us a while ago. 30 00:01:52,410 --> 00:01:55,530 So we've been going through that, dealing with that at home. 31 00:01:56,670 --> 00:02:00,890 And it's been causing some problems with him, definitely. 32 00:02:01,810 --> 00:02:06,910 This is why I speak to you out to hopefully balance everything back out 33 00:02:06,910 --> 00:02:07,910 us. Okay. 34 00:02:09,180 --> 00:02:10,180 Yeah. 35 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,400 Okay. 36 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,500 So, Billy, are you in school right now? 37 00:02:15,820 --> 00:02:19,580 Yeah. All right. I'm kind of getting in a little trouble, but... All right. 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,420 Okay. Well, we'll get to that. 39 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,440 Is there anything that you wanted to tell me about yourself? Are you into 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,620 gaming? Yeah, a little. Yeah? A little bit? Okay. 41 00:02:30,940 --> 00:02:31,940 That's cool. 42 00:02:33,180 --> 00:02:35,440 Do you have any other hobbies? Do you work out? 43 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:36,720 Yeah, I work out. 44 00:02:36,860 --> 00:02:37,880 Okay. I like fighting. 45 00:02:38,460 --> 00:02:41,900 You like fighting? Yeah, I like boxing and stuff like that. Okay. All right. 46 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,240 Boxing. 47 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,640 Cool. I like to watch Pride Fights, too. 48 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,360 So, 49 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:56,520 how do you feel about being here today? Are you okay with it? I 50 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,260 don't really know why I have to be here, but she said we'd have to come. 51 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,720 I'm not totally into it, but you're here. You came. 52 00:03:05,620 --> 00:03:06,700 Thank you. I'm trying. 53 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,000 You're trying? 54 00:03:08,180 --> 00:03:11,280 Okay. You know, I really find that at the end of the day, that's kind of 55 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,040 everything. You know, it's all you can do, but it's still a lot to do is to 56 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,300 So thank you, really, for being present. 57 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,340 Jamie, have you done therapy before? 58 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,680 I have in the past, yes, or a couple of counseling. 59 00:03:25,020 --> 00:03:26,700 Okay. This will be the first time with. 60 00:03:27,180 --> 00:03:28,180 therapy with him. 61 00:03:28,340 --> 00:03:31,520 Did you have a good experience with therapy? No, I did. 62 00:03:31,780 --> 00:03:33,960 Absolutely. It was great. It helped us immensely. 63 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Okay. Alright. 64 00:03:37,620 --> 00:03:39,820 So, Billy, are you dating anyone right now? 65 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:42,760 No. No? Just busy with school and stuff. 66 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,240 Busy with school and stuff? 67 00:03:44,660 --> 00:03:48,920 Okay. Girls call. He just doesn't act interested for some reason. 68 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:50,920 Alright. 69 00:03:52,690 --> 00:03:56,410 Okay, do you, you know, but there's no girl that you have a crush on? 70 00:03:56,630 --> 00:03:59,630 Is there a boy that you have a crush on? No, definitely not. Okay. 71 00:04:00,110 --> 00:04:01,490 I mean, it's cool if you do. 72 00:04:02,090 --> 00:04:05,690 Well, he's not busy with school now. He was suspended for fighting, 73 00:04:05,870 --> 00:04:06,870 unfortunately. 74 00:04:07,330 --> 00:04:08,930 You did say you like fighting. 75 00:04:09,790 --> 00:04:10,850 The kid had a comment. 76 00:04:11,650 --> 00:04:13,710 He beat the kid to a bloody pulp. 77 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:15,410 Oh. Completely unacceptable. 78 00:04:15,970 --> 00:04:16,970 What happened with that? 79 00:04:17,910 --> 00:04:20,310 Coughs and balls? Or you get a suspension? 80 00:04:20,769 --> 00:04:23,090 Yeah, he's suspended for the last two weeks he's been home. 81 00:04:23,290 --> 00:04:25,070 For two weeks? That's not nothing. 82 00:04:25,290 --> 00:04:26,310 That's a long time. 83 00:04:26,530 --> 00:04:27,529 Yeah. 84 00:04:27,530 --> 00:04:30,430 You've been on your suspension and staying home? 85 00:04:30,830 --> 00:04:32,630 Yeah, two weeks in close with her. 86 00:04:33,410 --> 00:04:35,930 Okay. What has that been like? 87 00:04:36,150 --> 00:04:37,150 Has it been tough? 88 00:04:37,670 --> 00:04:38,670 Better than school. 89 00:04:39,470 --> 00:04:42,010 Okay, fair enough. It has been better than school. 90 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:45,830 How about for you, Mom? How's that been, having him around? It's been a lot of 91 00:04:45,830 --> 00:04:50,330 trials and tribulations, for sure. But we get through it, you know. 92 00:04:51,130 --> 00:04:55,810 Is there anything specific that you've been having issues with? I mean, is he 93 00:04:55,810 --> 00:04:58,210 cleaning up his room? Is he a mess in the kitchen? 94 00:04:58,570 --> 00:05:03,750 All of that. He has to clean up after himself, listen, you know, the basics. 95 00:05:04,110 --> 00:05:05,110 The basics? 96 00:05:05,150 --> 00:05:06,190 Okay, well, you know. 97 00:05:07,270 --> 00:05:13,510 Pretty normal. Is that kind of like part of why you're here today? 98 00:05:14,670 --> 00:05:19,710 Yeah, he just had an anger problem that I've noticed, especially since his dad 99 00:05:19,710 --> 00:05:23,390 left. And we just want to get to the bottom of it, see what's going on. 100 00:05:25,370 --> 00:05:31,150 And this anger, Billy, do you feel like he's been angry? 101 00:05:31,750 --> 00:05:32,750 Not really. 102 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:35,430 Not really, but do you feel that he's been? 103 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,039 Angry. Yes. 104 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,740 Do you feel, like it's acknowledging that, Bill, you don't feel like you've 105 00:05:41,740 --> 00:05:44,180 angry. Do you feel that it's been directed at you? 106 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,680 No, definitely not. I mean, it's been a perfect angel to me, but definitely 107 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,660 everyone around and school, obviously, has been a major issue. 108 00:05:53,940 --> 00:05:58,920 Okay. So... Billy, why do you think that your mom says that? 109 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,240 Why do you think she feels that way? 110 00:06:02,980 --> 00:06:05,080 I mean, I guess I... 111 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:08,540 angry, but I feel like they should be. 112 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,000 My dad left. 113 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:11,979 That's true. 114 00:06:11,980 --> 00:06:12,980 Your dad did leave. 115 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,360 That's a response. Have you been talking to him at all or emailing or texting? 116 00:06:19,020 --> 00:06:20,420 Not really. Not really? Not really. 117 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,840 Has that been kind of rough on you? Do you want to talk to him some more? Yeah, 118 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:26,380 there's a bunch of questions I want to ask. 119 00:06:27,260 --> 00:06:32,300 Okay. Do you think that maybe he just needs some time to cool off and like... 120 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:34,840 Come back around and get involved again? 121 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:38,140 We don't know. We haven't heard from him. 122 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,340 He's just up and left. 123 00:06:41,260 --> 00:06:42,260 Okay. 124 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,340 I'm very sorry about that. That's hard. How are you dealing with that? Are you 125 00:06:47,340 --> 00:06:48,460 taking care of yourself? 126 00:06:48,860 --> 00:06:51,460 Yeah, I'm okay. I'm taking care of him. I'm taking care of the household. 127 00:06:52,180 --> 00:06:53,520 So are you getting time for yourself? 128 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,320 Maybe a few days tonight with a glass that should bleed in the tub. 129 00:06:57,660 --> 00:06:59,460 Yeah, here and there if I get lucky. 130 00:07:00,340 --> 00:07:02,140 All right. Bye. 131 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:07,640 So, you said maybe you're feeling a little anger. 132 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,020 I don't notice it, but other people say it. 133 00:07:11,260 --> 00:07:17,820 Other people are saying it. Have you noticed anything that you do or say that 134 00:07:17,820 --> 00:07:21,300 makes other people feel like you've been angry? Like, is there a pattern that 135 00:07:21,300 --> 00:07:22,139 you've noticed? 136 00:07:22,140 --> 00:07:24,340 I mean, I guess I could be a little short with people. 137 00:07:24,620 --> 00:07:26,500 Okay. Maybe a little sniffy? Yeah. 138 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,880 Yeah. Would you say you agree with that? I mean, I would say a piece. 139 00:07:31,590 --> 00:07:32,590 Fighting at school. 140 00:07:32,810 --> 00:07:33,810 Punching people. 141 00:07:34,090 --> 00:07:35,750 Straight to his head. 142 00:07:38,110 --> 00:07:39,470 Let's talk about that incident. 143 00:07:39,970 --> 00:07:44,930 What triggered that? Did the kid take a swing at you? Did he say something? 144 00:07:45,450 --> 00:07:46,910 I just didn't like his attitude. 145 00:07:47,290 --> 00:07:48,490 You didn't like his attitude? 146 00:07:49,070 --> 00:07:50,350 Can you tell me about his attitude? 147 00:07:51,090 --> 00:07:53,710 He started talking about Jane. 148 00:07:54,670 --> 00:07:55,970 She said my mom was hot. 149 00:07:56,550 --> 00:07:58,710 Oh. I wasn't listening to that. 150 00:07:59,490 --> 00:08:03,030 Okay. Were you aware of this? I was not aware of this. 151 00:08:04,390 --> 00:08:11,230 Okay. So, that was upsetting to you that he said that your mom was good 152 00:08:11,230 --> 00:08:12,570 -looking. 153 00:08:15,350 --> 00:08:16,530 Go a little bit more. 154 00:08:17,770 --> 00:08:19,310 Yeah, I mean, I just lost my cool. 155 00:08:19,530 --> 00:08:20,930 I mean, she's a very beautiful lady. 156 00:08:21,170 --> 00:08:22,170 You know. 157 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:28,870 But, I mean, if he's going to talk about my mom like that, he's... It's not 158 00:08:28,870 --> 00:08:32,860 cool. So... I had to do something about it. It's not cool? 159 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,039 Well, like, why is it not cool? 160 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,059 I mean, don't jump on me because I said your message is attractive. 161 00:08:38,340 --> 00:08:39,340 No, I'm just super disrespectful. 162 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,460 Disrespectful? Like, how? I mean, it's... Plus, my mom's awesome. 163 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,080 She is? 164 00:08:45,420 --> 00:08:46,199 Thank God. 165 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,160 Does that upset you that one of his friends said that you were good -looking 166 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,860 attractive or... No, I don't see the problem in it. 167 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:58,580 Okay. So, you don't feel like he needs to defend whatever. It's not like you 168 00:08:58,580 --> 00:09:02,270 were... Dating this kid or something. Yeah. You just need to defend your own 169 00:09:02,270 --> 00:09:05,770 uncle. I appreciate it, though, but you don't need to be getting in trouble over 170 00:09:05,770 --> 00:09:09,030 it. Okay, but you... You got him. 171 00:09:09,250 --> 00:09:10,430 Oh, he won't say anything again. 172 00:09:13,470 --> 00:09:14,470 Probably. 173 00:09:15,510 --> 00:09:19,170 But, like, is that a problem for you? That other people find your mom 174 00:09:19,170 --> 00:09:21,270 attractive? Or is it disrespectful towards you? 175 00:09:21,830 --> 00:09:23,930 Or... Yeah, I guess it is a problem. 176 00:09:24,890 --> 00:09:26,530 Can you tell me a little bit about... 177 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,020 Why? Because that's kind of an extreme reaction. 178 00:09:30,660 --> 00:09:33,660 Yeah, I mean, I didn't notice it before. 179 00:09:33,940 --> 00:09:37,620 It was just once my father left, it kind of happened. 180 00:09:39,020 --> 00:09:40,500 What kind of happened? 181 00:09:40,780 --> 00:09:43,860 If anybody said anything about her, I'd just get aggressive. 182 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,540 I have to defend her. It's like my job now. 183 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:52,040 Right, since your father left, you're feeling more like you've stepped into 184 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,500 role? Yeah, I'm supposed to protect her. 185 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,680 Do you think... 186 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:05,500 Here, let's have you picture in your mind your mother's 187 00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:06,960 perfect partner. 188 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,200 Like, you know, who should be with her, the kind of guy you'd like to see with 189 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:17,580 her. It can be your dad or it can be someone else. But if you're going to put 190 00:10:17,580 --> 00:10:23,100 together, you know, various qualities for this person who should be her 191 00:10:23,300 --> 00:10:26,540 what does that look like? 192 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,460 They'd have to be able to protect her. Okay. 193 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:32,400 Good looking. 194 00:10:32,460 --> 00:10:33,460 Mm -hmm. 195 00:10:36,060 --> 00:10:37,420 And just respect her. 196 00:10:37,860 --> 00:10:39,060 Respect her? Yeah. 197 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,880 Uh -huh. And sort of, like, defend her. 198 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,680 Yeah. Okay. So you have definite ideas. 199 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,640 And I'm guessing that these did not apply to the kid on the other end of it. 200 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:51,780 definitely, no. Okay. 201 00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:57,380 So how would you feel if she did start? 202 00:10:58,060 --> 00:10:59,060 Dating again. 203 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,800 I don't know, to be honest with you. 204 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,280 I don't really know if she's ready to start dating yet. 205 00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:12,540 How long ago did the split in the marriage? 206 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,400 It's been about six, seven months now. 207 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:21,000 So it's not been an excessively long time, but it's been a while. Yeah. It's 208 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,900 been enough time that you're talking about a comedy. I'm not having to, like, 209 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:27,500 scramble for tissues or anything like that. Although I'm sure it's still... 210 00:11:27,690 --> 00:11:32,110 Hurts. How do you feel about dating again? 211 00:11:32,970 --> 00:11:39,770 I feel like it would be okay. I just have to just slowly ease my way into it. 212 00:11:39,770 --> 00:11:42,910 think it would be a good thing eventually to get back into. 213 00:11:43,210 --> 00:11:45,010 Do you have any plans to start dating again? 214 00:11:47,210 --> 00:11:52,590 Not right away, but definitely something within the next few months, possibly. 215 00:11:52,810 --> 00:11:56,450 I should start venturing into and seeing what's out there. 216 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,320 Yeah, definitely something I would venture into. I don't think you're 217 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,280 You don't think so? 218 00:12:02,860 --> 00:12:05,680 What would that look like to you if she was ready? 219 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:11,340 Good for her if she's ready, but I just don't think she is. 220 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:18,220 What do you think would be the tangible or intangible signifiers that mom's 221 00:12:18,220 --> 00:12:19,280 ready to start dating again? 222 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,080 Would she have a certain attitude? 223 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,600 Would it just be like a certain amount of time has passed? 224 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,900 A certain amount of time passed. 225 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,220 A certain amount of time passed? A couple of years. 226 00:12:29,580 --> 00:12:30,580 A couple of years? 227 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:33,720 Okay. 228 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,120 How would you feel if she decided that that was too long? That she wanted to 229 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,920 start dating within the next few months? 230 00:12:43,460 --> 00:12:44,480 I think it's too soon. 231 00:12:45,580 --> 00:12:50,340 It would be too soon for her or it would be too soon for you? 232 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:52,980 Probably both of us. 233 00:12:54,020 --> 00:12:58,870 Okay. So it sounds a little bit like we have a disagreement here about something 234 00:12:58,870 --> 00:13:03,070 that may be a little closer to the root of our problem. 235 00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:05,550 Maybe? 236 00:13:08,990 --> 00:13:09,990 Okay. 237 00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:11,290 Maybe. 238 00:13:12,330 --> 00:13:15,210 Let me think about this. 239 00:13:17,210 --> 00:13:23,250 So, Billy, you might have heard of something like this before. 240 00:13:25,740 --> 00:13:27,080 This is over here by my camera. 241 00:13:33,340 --> 00:13:37,660 Are you familiar with an inkblot test or a Rorschach test? 242 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:38,900 Oh, they look like pictures? 243 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,620 Yeah, exactly. They look like pictures. 244 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,100 You just have a look. I'm just going to have you look at a few of them. 245 00:13:46,820 --> 00:13:52,820 And just tell me what they make you think. 246 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,980 how they make you feel. 247 00:13:56,460 --> 00:13:58,200 Let's select the ones that I want. 248 00:13:58,820 --> 00:13:59,820 Okay, 249 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:14,240 so 250 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,800 I'm just going to show them to you and like anything that it makes you think 251 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,760 you can just tell me what occurred to you. 252 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,800 Top of your head. Okay? Free association. No wrong answers. 253 00:14:26,380 --> 00:14:28,820 It's a test that you're guaranteed to ace. 254 00:14:35,500 --> 00:14:36,760 Anything in question? 255 00:14:38,180 --> 00:14:39,440 It's a rib cage. 256 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:40,940 Rib cage. 257 00:14:41,580 --> 00:14:42,580 That's interesting. 258 00:14:42,940 --> 00:14:43,940 Okay. 259 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,420 Rib cage. 260 00:14:54,920 --> 00:15:01,600 Sounds like a bathrobe, doesn't it? A bathrobe? Yeah. A bathrobe. A red page 261 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:02,680 a bathrobe. Okay. 262 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,520 Very interesting. 263 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,080 Card seven, a bathrobe. 264 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,720 And I'm just going to give you two more here. 265 00:15:13,060 --> 00:15:14,060 Card ten. 266 00:15:17,580 --> 00:15:22,060 Looks kind of like a woman with big hips, doesn't it? Big hips. 267 00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:24,660 Okay. I can see that. 268 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,340 And black is certainly not big. 269 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,380 Kind of like a flower, isn't it? Like an upside -down flower. 270 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,560 Yeah, like an inverted flower. 271 00:15:42,780 --> 00:15:44,740 Does that look more appropriate? 272 00:15:45,300 --> 00:15:46,300 Yeah. 273 00:15:46,580 --> 00:15:50,320 Is it a candy or a pansy? Yeah. 274 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,600 Yeah, maybe. I can see that. 275 00:15:57,070 --> 00:15:58,690 That was very interesting. 276 00:16:00,830 --> 00:16:01,830 Did I pass? 277 00:16:02,270 --> 00:16:04,710 You did pass. You did very well. 278 00:16:05,450 --> 00:16:12,090 Just so that you know, it seems like a fixation on biological and 279 00:16:12,090 --> 00:16:16,650 anatomical forms, especially in the feminine torso. 280 00:16:17,710 --> 00:16:22,150 So can I ask you a few questions about your living situation right now? 281 00:16:23,750 --> 00:16:25,350 You've been home for two weeks. 282 00:16:26,890 --> 00:16:32,190 And do you have a job outside the home or do you stay at home? 283 00:16:32,430 --> 00:16:33,810 I stay at home. Okay. 284 00:16:34,010 --> 00:16:35,090 Yes. Stay -at -home parent. 285 00:16:37,210 --> 00:16:39,870 So you two are sharing the house pretty much? 286 00:16:40,590 --> 00:16:41,590 All day. 287 00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:42,509 All day? 288 00:16:42,510 --> 00:16:44,190 Yes. Especially the last two weeks. 289 00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:46,450 Are you sharing a bathroom? 290 00:16:48,430 --> 00:16:49,430 Yes. 291 00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:50,670 Yeah? 292 00:16:50,950 --> 00:16:55,290 Okay. Is it like, how does that usually work out? Like in your day -to -day 293 00:16:55,290 --> 00:16:56,290 routine? 294 00:16:57,219 --> 00:17:00,160 Let's say you get up in the morning, you know, do you have it worked out so that 295 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,600 someone showers in the morning, someone showers in the evening, or? 296 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,339 Well, I'll shower in the morning. 297 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,060 He showers after I'm finished. 298 00:17:07,859 --> 00:17:08,859 Immediately following? 299 00:17:09,020 --> 00:17:10,079 Yes. Okay. 300 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:11,679 All right. 301 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:17,660 And what about your sort of like modesty practices around the house? Do you tend 302 00:17:17,660 --> 00:17:20,040 to wear a bathrobe? 303 00:17:21,780 --> 00:17:25,560 Occasionally, right out of the shower, you know, to go into my room and change. 304 00:17:27,740 --> 00:17:29,880 Yeah. Do you mind if I ask what color it is? 305 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:31,199 It's white. 306 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,200 Okay. 307 00:17:33,860 --> 00:17:36,660 Um, what about you? Are you a bathrobe fan? 308 00:17:36,980 --> 00:17:38,820 No. No? Just a towel and out. 309 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:42,100 Okay. Very butch. Yeah. Okay. 310 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,140 Just a towel. 311 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,180 And sleeping arrangements. 312 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:50,920 Everyone has their own room? 313 00:17:51,180 --> 00:17:52,180 Yeah. Okay. 314 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,080 Um. 315 00:17:55,150 --> 00:17:59,030 We're home together all day. I imagine that's pretty, like, close quarters. 316 00:18:02,090 --> 00:18:04,190 So when you are around the house. 317 00:18:04,470 --> 00:18:09,370 I'm sorry to interrupt you, but you mentioned the camera earlier. Is that 318 00:18:09,850 --> 00:18:10,850 Oh, yeah. 319 00:18:11,490 --> 00:18:15,170 So I just like to take notes sort of digitally. 320 00:18:15,490 --> 00:18:18,810 You know, I mean, like, I write, too, if I want to, like, specifically just have 321 00:18:18,810 --> 00:18:22,590 something quick to go back to. But I like being able to watch the whole 322 00:18:22,890 --> 00:18:23,990 So it's note -taking. 323 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,180 Thank you for clarifying. Sorry to interrupt. 324 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,419 It's okay. 325 00:18:27,420 --> 00:18:29,280 Nobody else is. It's just for me. 326 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:32,660 Oh, I remember. 327 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:41,860 So, Billy, I would just like to ask you kind of an odd question, but 328 00:18:41,860 --> 00:18:42,940 can you indulge me? 329 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,700 Even if it's a little bit weird and makes you uncomfortable, can you just 330 00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:47,700 do it for me? 331 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,060 How do you feel about your mom? 332 00:18:55,340 --> 00:18:58,440 They are, you know, displayed. 333 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:01,240 It's cool she dressed like that at home. 334 00:19:01,580 --> 00:19:03,600 But I want her out in public like that. 335 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,360 Then everyone can see. 336 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,680 Well, how do you feel about her being dressed like that here in my office? 337 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,800 I guess it's okay. You seem cool. 338 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,660 Thank you. I try. 339 00:19:15,420 --> 00:19:22,300 Okay. I have been noticing a few little eye flutters to that general area. Is 340 00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:24,060 it just distracting for you? 341 00:19:24,580 --> 00:19:25,580 Not really. 342 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:26,880 No? 343 00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:30,460 Okay. Remember, I am recording, so I'll be able to go back and count. I text. 344 00:19:30,740 --> 00:19:31,740 I promise. 345 00:19:31,980 --> 00:19:32,980 Okay. 346 00:19:33,620 --> 00:19:34,620 All right. 347 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:41,440 How do you feel about, like, what would you say are your mother's three most 348 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,440 attractive qualities? 349 00:19:45,140 --> 00:19:46,140 She's a good listener. 350 00:19:48,780 --> 00:19:49,900 She's a great personality. 351 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,800 Okay. 352 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:54,940 And I guess. 353 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,160 Can I say that? 354 00:19:58,260 --> 00:19:59,380 You're going to have to say it. 355 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,300 She has awesome breasts. 356 00:20:02,020 --> 00:20:03,020 Okay. 357 00:20:04,860 --> 00:20:10,680 Jeannie, how does that make you feel that he thinks that? Well, I mean, thank 358 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,180 you for the compliment, sweetheart. 359 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:19,020 But I guess it's normal, natural for him to be attracted to breasts. 360 00:20:20,900 --> 00:20:21,900 Usually, yes. 361 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,320 I would say that it is. 362 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:30,620 So if you weren't, if she wasn't your mom, would you say that Jamie is your 363 00:20:30,620 --> 00:20:31,620 type? 364 00:20:32,660 --> 00:20:33,800 Yeah, I guess you could say that. 365 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,460 Jamie, can I have you just stand right here for me, please? 366 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:47,180 So you mentioned feeling like your stepmom needs to be protected. 367 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,000 Mm -hmm. 368 00:20:51,060 --> 00:20:56,520 And that you don't think she's ready to date yet, but you can't really give me a 369 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,860 definite reason as to why. 370 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,060 Yeah. Okay. 371 00:21:01,580 --> 00:21:08,340 And apparently you feel strongly enough about this that you got physical with 372 00:21:08,340 --> 00:21:09,940 another guy. Is that correct? 373 00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:11,380 Yeah, that's cool. 374 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,160 Can you just take a look at your mom for me? 375 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,080 Up and down. 376 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,980 So you see her every single day. It sounds like the two of you have gotten 377 00:21:22,980 --> 00:21:27,420 really close, especially since your dad left. 378 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Is that correct? 379 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,160 Yeah. 380 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,520 Okay, why don't you stand up for me? Okay. 381 00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:37,500 So, 382 00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:41,420 can you hold hands with me for a second? 383 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,320 Yeah. 384 00:21:43,820 --> 00:21:47,980 I don't know if you've done this a lot at home, but can you two hands look at 385 00:21:47,980 --> 00:21:48,980 each other? 386 00:21:49,879 --> 00:21:53,240 Take a breath. I want to feel both of you. Feel your breath sinking up. 387 00:21:56,020 --> 00:21:57,020 Good. 388 00:21:57,780 --> 00:21:58,780 Good. 389 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,160 You want to open your eyes. I want you to look into each other's eyes. Just 390 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,160 of keep breathing. 391 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,480 That's good. 392 00:22:09,900 --> 00:22:12,360 It's a little awkward to just look into someone else's eyes. 393 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,820 It kind of brings everything to the fore. 394 00:22:16,830 --> 00:22:19,950 Do you think that we're trying not to say, it's okay if you want to smile or 395 00:22:19,950 --> 00:22:20,950 want to laugh. It's okay. 396 00:22:22,130 --> 00:22:24,330 It's not something we do very often, is it? No. 397 00:22:24,530 --> 00:22:26,110 No. Not at all. Not at all. 398 00:22:27,290 --> 00:22:28,510 How are you feeling, Jamie? 399 00:22:28,830 --> 00:22:29,729 I'm okay. 400 00:22:29,730 --> 00:22:33,830 Okay. Let's keep looking at each other's eyes, even when you're talking to me, 401 00:22:33,870 --> 00:22:36,250 okay? Okay. I don't want you to feel like I'm here. 402 00:22:36,490 --> 00:22:39,450 I want you to just kind of like think of me as like a little voice in your ears. 403 00:22:39,530 --> 00:22:42,870 It's like keep breathing. Listen in and out. Listen to each other. 404 00:22:46,179 --> 00:22:47,179 Billy, you too. 405 00:22:47,420 --> 00:22:51,780 You know, Billy, I want you to kind of like let your eyes kind of go up and 406 00:22:51,780 --> 00:22:53,540 your body. 407 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,960 Sort of take it all in. 408 00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:00,240 Think about how she looks. 409 00:23:00,580 --> 00:23:05,180 Think about how she's been caring for you. About what you think she needs as 410 00:23:05,180 --> 00:23:07,840 opposed to what she thinks she needs. Just need you to think about your 411 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,840 situation. 412 00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:10,300 Okay? 413 00:23:10,879 --> 00:23:15,160 Now you should think about how you can't beat up everybody who says that she's 414 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,820 hot. Because it's probably going to be a lot of people, okay? 415 00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:19,340 Would you say that's accurate? 416 00:23:19,620 --> 00:23:23,560 Yeah. So what I think, Billy, and just keep looking at each other. 417 00:23:23,940 --> 00:23:28,700 Now you should just think about what I'm talking about. I want you to think 418 00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:33,480 about how she is a very beautiful woman. 419 00:23:33,820 --> 00:23:39,000 And she probably does need someone to take care of her and protect her. 420 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,640 And that's okay. 421 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:51,100 And I want you to think about how it's okay for you to be honest about your 422 00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:52,100 feelings. 423 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,980 I know that this is kind of like a strange thing to do with the eye gazing, 424 00:23:56,980 --> 00:24:03,640 also it's very difficult in my experience to lie to someone or be 425 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,800 someone when you're breathing together and looking into each other's eyes, 426 00:24:08,540 --> 00:24:11,640 So... I want you to take three more deep breaths, Billy. 427 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,760 And then, once I'm done talking, you can keep breathing. 428 00:24:17,740 --> 00:24:20,620 But once I'm done talking, I want you to take three deep breaths. 429 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:28,560 And then I want you to say whatever it is that I can feel 430 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,460 you holding on in here. I want you to say whatever it is that you've been 431 00:24:32,460 --> 00:24:33,460 wanting to say. 432 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,620 Can you do that for me? 433 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,060 I cannot crush on my mom. 434 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:51,360 Okay. 435 00:24:52,660 --> 00:24:54,980 I thought that maybe that would be where that was going. 436 00:24:57,580 --> 00:25:01,020 Jamie, how does that make you feel? Is that surprising to you? 437 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,180 Yeah, it's a little surprising. A little overwhelming. 438 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,060 Okay. A little overwhelming. 439 00:25:06,890 --> 00:25:10,810 How do you feel? Not like you think you're supposed to say, but how do you 440 00:25:12,190 --> 00:25:19,070 I feel a little confused, but it makes sense for the anger and the 441 00:25:19,070 --> 00:25:20,070 lashing out. 442 00:25:21,310 --> 00:25:22,550 I'm trying to get my attention. 443 00:25:24,570 --> 00:25:28,250 Well, you certainly got her attention, but this time we're not going to buddy 444 00:25:28,250 --> 00:25:29,650 anyone's nose over it, okay? 445 00:25:30,570 --> 00:25:32,250 Okay, you two want to have a seat now? 446 00:25:35,170 --> 00:25:36,170 Okay. 447 00:25:36,780 --> 00:25:41,860 All right, Billy, thank you very much for sharing that. I know that's hard to 448 00:25:41,860 --> 00:25:42,860 sometimes, okay? 449 00:25:44,060 --> 00:25:47,320 All right, and I do appreciate it. I'm sure Jamie, oh, he's pushing here. 450 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,460 Jamie, I'm sure that you appreciate his candor and telling me how he feels. 451 00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:58,620 So what I would like to do with the rest of our time today is kind of establish 452 00:25:58,620 --> 00:26:01,460 what we're going to do with that information. 453 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,600 It's actually very common. 454 00:26:06,830 --> 00:26:10,630 especially in the situation that you two are living in right now. It would 455 00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:12,530 almost be more unusual if it didn't happen. 456 00:26:12,810 --> 00:26:16,630 Okay. But I assure you, it's very normal. 457 00:26:16,850 --> 00:26:17,749 It's a relief. 458 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:18,750 Okay. 459 00:26:18,930 --> 00:26:25,850 You just have to kind of have a plan for how to deal with it so that some 460 00:26:25,850 --> 00:26:28,570 people don't get themselves into trouble again. 461 00:26:29,630 --> 00:26:32,790 And, you know, you can continue to function and everything like that. Okay? 462 00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:35,410 So, Billy, I want to have you. 463 00:26:37,260 --> 00:26:41,680 Do something with me that's going to hopefully help get some of that jealousy 464 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,020 under control and bring you more in touch with your feelings. Because I 465 00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:51,620 it's more than just, oh, I don't want anyone else having what I can't have. 466 00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:57,720 I think that it's more about being comfortable with yourself so that once 467 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:03,780 labeled those emotions and defined where they're coming from, that you can then 468 00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:04,780 center yourself. 469 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,460 You know, because, like, when you don't have that anchor point, you know, oh, my 470 00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:10,340 gosh, like, what's happening? You know, everything can spiral out of control. 471 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,560 But if we can just practice with you what we've established, I think that 472 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,000 going to make a big, big change in your behavior for the better. I think you're 473 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,000 going to be happier. 474 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,720 Your mom's going to be way happier, which I'm assuming is important to you. 475 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,460 So are you both willing to help me with that? Yes, absolutely. 476 00:27:29,980 --> 00:27:30,980 We're all on board? 477 00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:32,020 Yeah, definitely. 478 00:27:32,340 --> 00:27:33,880 I'm grateful for it. Thank you. Okay. 479 00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:38,120 Awesome. I know I just had you sit down, but Jamie, can you stand up again for 480 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:39,200 me? Just right here. 481 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,200 Okay. 482 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,080 All right. 483 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:50,140 So, Billy, we're going to play a game, and you're going to be sort 484 00:27:50,140 --> 00:27:52,680 of the game board that we're playing on. Okay? Okay? 485 00:27:52,980 --> 00:27:59,900 So, I am going to use my hand over Jamie's body, and 486 00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:03,820 you're going to tell me how anxious, 487 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,720 that makes you feel, okay? So you can take anywhere from like a one to a five. 488 00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:13,960 And so one is like, you know, whatever, you know, like her shaking hands with 489 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:14,960 grandma. I mean, I don't care. 490 00:28:16,180 --> 00:28:22,520 Like a five where it's like that feeling like right before you made sure that 491 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,960 that other boy wasn't going to say anything anymore, okay? 492 00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:27,080 Simple enough game, right? 493 00:28:27,460 --> 00:28:28,460 Got it? 494 00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:30,360 Okay, can you do that with me? One through five. 495 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,140 Yeah, just like one through five and just tell me how you're feeling. If you 496 00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:37,600 want to put more words to it than just numbers, feel free. 497 00:28:37,860 --> 00:28:39,740 Okay? Just ahead of you, sorry. 498 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,060 All right, you okay? 499 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,239 You ready to go? 500 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,240 All right. 501 00:28:46,060 --> 00:28:47,039 Take a one. 502 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,400 Yeah, like a one, the hair. 503 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,320 Two. 504 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,720 Oh, okay, a two. 505 00:29:02,410 --> 00:29:03,430 It's like in between the two. 506 00:29:04,150 --> 00:29:05,150 Okay. 507 00:29:12,410 --> 00:29:14,790 Yeah, that kind of makes me feel like it's like three. 508 00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:17,350 That's a three? Yeah. Five counts three. 509 00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:23,950 Two. 510 00:29:24,570 --> 00:29:26,710 Okay. I don't know how to put names. 511 00:29:37,439 --> 00:29:40,200 Really? Like specifically like this more area right here? 512 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,480 Yeah. 513 00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:44,960 Okay. Yeah, definitely a five. 514 00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:46,039 So that's a five. 515 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,040 Definitely a five. 516 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,340 All right, but you're keeping control of yourself really, really well. Thank 517 00:29:50,340 --> 00:29:51,340 you. 518 00:29:51,780 --> 00:29:54,400 Thank you. Do you want to maybe start breathing again for me? 519 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,300 I noticed you're kind of holding your breath a little bit. 520 00:29:58,420 --> 00:30:00,320 I said it was a five. Why didn't you keep going? 521 00:30:00,660 --> 00:30:03,160 Is that because this is like upsetting to you? 522 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,799 A little. 523 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,920 A little bit. Okay. We're just maintaining it. We've been doing it. 524 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,960 happening. Right? 525 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,580 Everything's okay. Everything's chill. 526 00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:15,220 You're doing very well. 527 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,259 Good job, sweetheart. 528 00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:17,260 I'm super proud of you. 529 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,540 Mom's super proud of you. 530 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:21,340 Mm -hmm. 531 00:30:22,540 --> 00:30:24,560 No, that's like way more than a five. 532 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:25,800 More than a five? 533 00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:29,060 I feel like he's very focused. 534 00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:32,260 Is this how you dress every day? 535 00:30:33,670 --> 00:30:34,670 Okay. 536 00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:42,170 Okay, so this is like 537 00:30:42,170 --> 00:30:43,170 quite upsetting. 538 00:30:43,250 --> 00:30:44,250 Yeah, a little. 539 00:30:44,290 --> 00:30:45,290 Is she uncomfortable? 540 00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:47,470 A little. 541 00:30:48,170 --> 00:30:52,870 Somebody seems a little bit possessive of Tommy's breasts. 542 00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:54,250 A little. 543 00:30:55,010 --> 00:30:56,010 Maybe a little. 544 00:30:56,130 --> 00:30:57,130 Maybe a little? 545 00:30:57,210 --> 00:30:59,910 Okay. Well, they're lovely. 546 00:31:00,330 --> 00:31:01,530 Thank you for a hug. 547 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:08,540 Okay, so I would say that your trigger areas are her vulva 548 00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:14,360 and also very much so breasts. 549 00:31:15,660 --> 00:31:16,660 Okay? 550 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,120 Yeah? 551 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,100 Can you think of anything that would make you feel more comfortable? I 552 00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:26,760 this is stressful for you. Again, thank you for maintaining your decorum. 553 00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:31,300 But can you think of anything that would make you feel more comfortable? 554 00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:33,090 With her being touched here? 555 00:31:34,790 --> 00:31:35,910 If I got to touch? 556 00:31:37,210 --> 00:31:40,130 Okay, if you got to do it, you think that would make you feel a little bit 557 00:31:40,130 --> 00:31:42,050 calmer? Yeah, maybe we'll feel left out. 558 00:31:42,890 --> 00:31:44,090 Okay, I can see that. 559 00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:48,270 I'm trying to think if I want to have you stand up or if I want to have you 560 00:31:48,270 --> 00:31:50,530 down. Why don't you sit down? I should. 561 00:31:50,750 --> 00:31:51,890 Here, Billy, you can move. 562 00:31:52,770 --> 00:31:58,130 Okay, let's have you open your knees for me. 563 00:31:58,510 --> 00:31:59,510 Thank you. 564 00:32:01,679 --> 00:32:05,640 Jamie, is it okay with you if Billy touches you? 565 00:32:05,860 --> 00:32:08,300 Yeah. Okay, like just in a therapeutic way. 566 00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:09,780 Okay. 567 00:32:10,260 --> 00:32:17,020 So Billy, you can stand up, you can sit down, you can kneel, wherever you 568 00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:18,680 want to be, wherever you think is best, okay? 569 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:25,460 So Billy, now I'm going to be touching Jamie from this side, and you can just 570 00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:28,420 kind of go from that side, and you know, anything that I'm doing, you know, you 571 00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:29,520 can mirror me, okay? 572 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,280 That sound? 573 00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:33,100 Yeah. 574 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,920 Kind of like calm the beast a little bit? 575 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,200 Okay. 576 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,440 Okay, ready? 577 00:32:39,860 --> 00:32:41,100 Okay. All right. 578 00:32:42,860 --> 00:32:45,920 This is a little bit strange, but it is like what you have been. 579 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,100 Don't focus on the fact that it's your mom. 580 00:32:59,470 --> 00:33:02,150 The fact that it's a beautiful female form. 581 00:33:02,570 --> 00:33:05,930 And, Janina, you can let yourself enjoy it, too. Like, guilt -free. 582 00:33:06,270 --> 00:33:07,229 It's okay. 583 00:33:07,230 --> 00:33:08,610 Yeah. Totally fine. 584 00:33:10,670 --> 00:33:11,670 You know? 585 00:33:12,490 --> 00:33:14,490 Sometimes it's like doing this kind of work. 586 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:17,190 It really is worth it in the long run. You know? 587 00:33:18,770 --> 00:33:19,770 You okay, honey? 588 00:33:20,490 --> 00:33:21,490 Okay. I'm okay. 589 00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:26,150 Okay. Okay. 590 00:33:27,170 --> 00:33:29,970 We're going to be, like, mirroring. my hands, right? 591 00:33:31,090 --> 00:33:35,470 So if my hand goes here, so does yours. 592 00:33:38,130 --> 00:33:39,370 It's very warm. 593 00:33:43,790 --> 00:33:45,670 Let's see if that continues down here. 594 00:33:46,010 --> 00:33:48,390 Oh, you're so close. Your little hand is shaking. 595 00:33:50,090 --> 00:33:51,090 It's all right. 596 00:33:51,170 --> 00:33:55,510 If you get nervous, just take a deep breath and remind yourself this is okay. 597 00:33:59,980 --> 00:34:06,880 Okay. Not hurting anybody is certainly better than being hung to a bloody pulp. 598 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,639 I agree. 599 00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:11,020 Much better. 600 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,360 I see you're kind of like trailing behind me a bit. 601 00:34:17,219 --> 00:34:18,219 There you go. 602 00:34:19,940 --> 00:34:20,940 Thank you. 603 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,080 It's okay. 604 00:34:23,620 --> 00:34:24,620 It's okay. 605 00:34:27,530 --> 00:34:28,530 Like it? 606 00:34:28,909 --> 00:34:30,469 Yeah, kind of. 607 00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:37,030 There you go. 608 00:34:37,550 --> 00:34:38,870 I'm just going to keep going. 609 00:34:39,989 --> 00:34:42,429 I feel like you saw the basis of what I was doing. 610 00:34:42,630 --> 00:34:47,969 I'm just kind of... I'm still following you. 611 00:34:48,330 --> 00:34:52,830 No, you can just kind of like explore as it were. I want you to take the ring 612 00:34:52,830 --> 00:34:53,830 from that one. 613 00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:55,389 Take the ring. 614 00:35:01,630 --> 00:35:03,170 It's okay to vocalize, Jamie. 615 00:35:03,470 --> 00:35:04,470 Kind of let it out. 616 00:35:07,090 --> 00:35:08,090 Wonderful. 617 00:35:08,370 --> 00:35:11,470 You have a very interested nipple, apparently. 618 00:35:12,490 --> 00:35:14,330 Which is normal and totally fine. 619 00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:18,490 The only reason I'm talking about it is because it's totally fine. 620 00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:22,610 As long as I draw attention, people get all nervous, but you don't have to, 621 00:35:22,610 --> 00:35:23,610 okay? 622 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,920 Well, when you two are, you know, sharing a bathroom and everything at 623 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:39,120 she just first gets out wearing that white bathtub, do you ever think about 624 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,780 seeing your mom naked? 625 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000 No, not really. 626 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,280 No, not really? 627 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,960 Are you sure? 628 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,020 You're doing that thing where you're kind of looking to the left, which 629 00:35:50,020 --> 00:35:53,400 generally implies... I guess when you put it that way. I guess I do. 630 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:54,700 You guess you do? 631 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,820 Maybe? Yeah, I do. 632 00:35:57,340 --> 00:36:01,140 Okay. Right? You don't have to say anything just to please me. No, no, 633 00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:02,220 right. Okay. 634 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,600 It's okay to, like, be honest. You know, we're trying to break down these 635 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,040 barriers because they're causing tension. 636 00:36:10,340 --> 00:36:11,700 The barriers are causing tension. 637 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,080 You know, they're making you lash out, you know, when you can't talk about 638 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,260 feelings, you can't name feelings, and it's okay. 639 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,020 Definitely suppressing and making them angry. 640 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,860 Yeah, it is. It's manifesting as anger, which is not... 641 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,180 what anyone wants. It's not what your mom wants. 642 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,980 I'm sure it's not what you want. I'm very sure it's not what the other kid 643 00:36:32,980 --> 00:36:35,400 wanted. So, it's okay. 644 00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:39,220 You don't have to be nervous. I heard your hand is fluttering. 645 00:36:39,580 --> 00:36:42,400 Do you maybe want to use both of your hands? 646 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:48,340 Actually, James, we have you take off your heels. Oh, I love these. These are 647 00:36:48,340 --> 00:36:49,340 super cute. 648 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,200 And that's how you can stand up here. 649 00:36:53,850 --> 00:36:55,950 And, Billy, you can raise your hand. 650 00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:58,170 Maybe come more direction. 651 00:36:59,130 --> 00:37:00,190 Oh, you got ready. Okay. 652 00:37:06,210 --> 00:37:07,210 Anything? 653 00:37:08,430 --> 00:37:14,730 If you have anything you want to ask, then I want you to actually stand up, 654 00:37:14,730 --> 00:37:18,770 eye contact, and say what you're feeling and what you want, okay? 655 00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:20,770 I'm going to work on you owning these emotions. 656 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,440 Sure. We can do that. 657 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:39,480 Why did you say yes? Do you have people owning 658 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,240 your feelings? And I'm so proud of both of you. It's okay to check in. 659 00:37:46,340 --> 00:37:49,120 Are you going to keep the camera rolling the whole time? 660 00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:51,380 I mean, it's confidential. 661 00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:54,880 It's not really any different from me writing it down. It's okay. 662 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,000 Okay, should we take this off too? 663 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,120 Really? 664 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,720 Yes, please. Yes, please. 665 00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:07,700 Okay. 666 00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:13,919 How's that? 667 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,120 Should I keep going? 668 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,680 Okay, I want you to do it here. Let's have you both stand up and date each 669 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,680 again. 670 00:38:21,509 --> 00:38:24,650 Remember, I'm not going to be going home with you. We have to talk to each 671 00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:25,870 other. Yeah, we should be going. 672 00:38:26,670 --> 00:38:27,670 Going? Yeah. 673 00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:29,390 Top or bottom? 674 00:38:31,570 --> 00:38:32,570 Both. 675 00:38:34,250 --> 00:38:38,170 That's good. I'm going to focus on just having you really vocalize what you're 676 00:38:38,170 --> 00:38:39,170 thinking, what you're feeling. 677 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:40,670 I'm jealous. 678 00:38:40,750 --> 00:38:44,110 I'm excited. I want this. I want that. 679 00:38:44,430 --> 00:38:46,610 And I don't want you to feel guilty about it, you know. 680 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,620 A lot of times you hold things in and you're keeping it a secret because you 681 00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:52,420 feel guilty about it, and there's really no reason why you should feel that way, 682 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,480 okay? 683 00:38:54,460 --> 00:38:57,640 You know, the same way, you know, Jamie, if you have anything that you want or 684 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,360 that you feel it's okay to talk about it, 685 00:39:02,420 --> 00:39:07,220 you'll be the elephant in the room. 686 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,638 You okay? 687 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,100 Yeah, you look amazing. 688 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,400 Thank you. 689 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,440 You're very beautiful. 690 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,300 I can see why you have a crush on me. 691 00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:22,660 So, is that everything that you could imagine? 692 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,280 Oh, yeah. 693 00:39:24,460 --> 00:39:26,360 Definitely. Definitely what I imagined. 694 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,720 Do you want to talk to me about how it feels to see your mom naked like this? 695 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,860 I've actually seen her naked in the shower a couple times. 696 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:36,240 Oh, okay. 697 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,900 So you were peeking. 698 00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:42,240 Is this like that? 699 00:39:43,180 --> 00:39:44,980 This is better. This is better? 700 00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:46,700 Okay. 701 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,760 Would you have been here right now, do you think, if you hadn't verbalized? 702 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,120 No. Probably not, right? 703 00:39:53,780 --> 00:39:54,780 Okay. 704 00:39:55,380 --> 00:40:01,440 Well, how does it feel? Like, are you anxious? Are you mad? Are you scared? 705 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,520 I'm more excited than anything. 706 00:40:03,940 --> 00:40:05,400 More excited than anything? 707 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,720 What do you want to do in here? 708 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,960 Uh, no wrong answers. 709 00:40:12,819 --> 00:40:13,940 There's no wrong answers. 710 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,380 No, not in therapy. 711 00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:17,280 I just want to touch her more. 712 00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:18,700 You just want to touch her more? 713 00:40:18,940 --> 00:40:22,940 Okay. Well, let's check in with her about that and how she feels. She's not 714 00:40:22,940 --> 00:40:23,859 a passive object. 715 00:40:23,860 --> 00:40:24,880 She's a person, okay? 716 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,320 I'm okay. 717 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,680 I'm just hoping that this helps him get through all of the emotions and stuff 718 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,720 that he's been going through. 719 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,000 I also want you to practice more on verbalizing your stuff. I want him to be 720 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,920 able to model that behavior through you. So, like, if you have to say, like, you 721 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,660 know, oh, I like it when you touch my breath. 722 00:40:42,110 --> 00:40:43,110 Not there, please. 723 00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:46,830 You know, can you do this instead? I want to see you naked. You know, 724 00:40:46,830 --> 00:40:52,090 that you want, I want you to verbalize your feelings as well, okay? So I want 725 00:40:52,090 --> 00:40:57,550 you to practice, you know, regardless of what she's doing, but I do want you to 726 00:40:57,550 --> 00:41:00,370 model regardless of what she's doing, okay? I want you both to take 727 00:41:00,370 --> 00:41:05,030 responsibility and ownership of your own feelings and express them, okay? 728 00:41:05,250 --> 00:41:08,470 Can you do that for me? Okay, let's practice that now. 729 00:41:09,110 --> 00:41:10,110 Both of you. 730 00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:11,390 Touch me. 731 00:41:17,770 --> 00:41:18,770 That feels good. 732 00:41:20,750 --> 00:41:22,490 Is there anything you want me to do? 733 00:41:23,410 --> 00:41:28,530 Um, I mean, you can take some clothes off too. 734 00:41:28,770 --> 00:41:34,010 I'd want... I would like it, and I want you to take some clothes off too. 735 00:41:34,590 --> 00:41:35,590 Okay. 736 00:41:39,090 --> 00:41:40,870 Strong definitive statement. 737 00:41:43,870 --> 00:41:44,870 Want this. 738 00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:46,050 Please do this. 739 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,760 You're just getting going there, aren't you, Billy? 740 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,920 You're getting undressed in the locker room. 741 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,040 You know what? Can I make a request? 742 00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:57,360 Let's put your shirt back on. 743 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,480 I want you to take it off different. 744 00:41:59,740 --> 00:42:00,740 I want you to do it nice. 745 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,960 Dr. Barber wants something, too. 746 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,200 Good. 747 00:42:09,710 --> 00:42:13,630 Okay, let's do some eye contact. Maybe let's see some, like, slow pulling up 748 00:42:13,630 --> 00:42:16,570 with the shirt. You have such a beautiful body, Billy. Let's give it the 749 00:42:16,570 --> 00:42:17,650 deserves. Oh, that's nice. 750 00:42:17,870 --> 00:42:19,210 Oh, that's nice. 751 00:42:19,550 --> 00:42:22,690 You can pull it up slow like that. You can see your nipples through the fabric. 752 00:42:25,470 --> 00:42:29,110 And that is quite a reveal. I feel like I'm seeing that chest for the first 753 00:42:29,110 --> 00:42:30,110 time. 754 00:42:32,010 --> 00:42:32,968 That's gorgeous. 755 00:42:32,970 --> 00:42:33,718 Is that better? 756 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:38,160 I think that was better. I enjoyed that much more as a lady. 757 00:42:38,420 --> 00:42:41,900 If you ask him to do it, he kind of just does it, you know? 758 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:45,480 Do you like the attention being paid to you and how you're doing things? 759 00:42:46,260 --> 00:42:50,420 Yeah? Both ways, just like open communications, open communications. 760 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:51,920 Put your hand here. 761 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,980 Do you feel like, oh, my goodness, you're, like, in such good shape, both 762 00:42:56,980 --> 00:42:58,560 you. Did you work out together? 763 00:43:00,140 --> 00:43:01,140 No. No? 764 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,700 He goes to the gym with his friends or alone. 765 00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:08,580 Look at that beautiful young body. 766 00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:10,900 Muscles. 767 00:43:14,020 --> 00:43:16,220 It's okay to fully explore him. 768 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:24,180 It looks to me, in my professional medical opinion, it appears that you're 769 00:43:24,180 --> 00:43:25,320 to go, as it were. 770 00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:27,640 We haven't really addressed this, have we? 771 00:43:28,060 --> 00:43:30,200 No. No, not really. 772 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,420 Well, how would you verbalize what this part of you is feeling? 773 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,440 I kind of want my dick sucked. 774 00:43:40,460 --> 00:43:43,940 Okay. Well, that's a very nice general statement to the universe. 775 00:43:47,260 --> 00:43:48,420 Can you be specific? 776 00:43:49,020 --> 00:43:50,020 Eye contact. 777 00:43:50,620 --> 00:43:52,600 Specific. I'd like my mom to suck my dick. 778 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,040 Oh, honey. 779 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,420 I don't know. 780 00:43:58,300 --> 00:43:59,560 It's okay. Say what you're thinking. 781 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:00,879 It's okay. 782 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,080 I don't know if I should do that. 783 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,860 Because I'm your mother. 784 00:44:07,420 --> 00:44:08,420 That's a good reason. 785 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,840 Because I'm your mother. 786 00:44:11,180 --> 00:44:12,180 Okay. 787 00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:14,860 Well, really, how would you feel if I did it? 788 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,339 That's okay. 789 00:44:16,340 --> 00:44:18,460 Yeah? The good conciliatory prize? Yeah. Okay. 790 00:44:20,260 --> 00:44:21,340 You would do that? 791 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:22,899 Well, yeah. 792 00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:24,600 Of course. Yeah. 793 00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:26,680 I mean, it looks like it needs it. 794 00:44:28,350 --> 00:44:31,590 Is it okay with you? Are you comfortable being here while I kind of like do this 795 00:44:31,590 --> 00:44:33,230 and sort of like acclimate to the situation? 796 00:44:33,650 --> 00:44:36,630 Yeah. Okay, because I really would like both of you to be more comfortable 797 00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:40,610 opening up. And it's okay to take baby steps, you know, or to decide like 798 00:44:40,730 --> 00:44:43,050 you know, taking baby steps. Maybe not for me. 799 00:44:43,770 --> 00:44:44,770 Either way, okay? 800 00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:46,030 Yeah. All right. 801 00:44:46,570 --> 00:44:50,370 Are you a sitter downer blowjobber or are you a stander uper? I don't know. 802 00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:52,030 Are you very lucky to me? 803 00:44:52,490 --> 00:44:53,490 I love those. 804 00:45:02,890 --> 00:45:04,070 You can sit down. 805 00:45:05,130 --> 00:45:07,050 How much you want to be involved. 806 00:45:08,890 --> 00:45:12,130 Or how much you want to do a case of them. 807 00:45:16,190 --> 00:45:20,730 Somebody's ready to go. 808 00:45:20,970 --> 00:45:22,330 Look at how the tip of it's blushing. 809 00:45:27,250 --> 00:45:32,230 You didn't say that you needed your cock. 810 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,920 You didn't say that, didn't you? 811 00:45:37,780 --> 00:45:38,780 What are we going to do? 812 00:45:43,060 --> 00:45:44,800 I think I can make that happen. 813 00:45:45,380 --> 00:45:46,440 Sam, would you like that? 814 00:45:46,740 --> 00:45:48,420 Yeah. I would enjoy that, too. 815 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,780 I wonder if your mother isn't flying into a jealous rage and hunting their 816 00:45:54,780 --> 00:45:55,780 in. Thank you. 817 00:45:55,980 --> 00:45:57,860 Great techniques, Doc. 818 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,440 Do you do this often? 819 00:46:32,660 --> 00:46:36,360 Is this like a normal routine in your therapy? 820 00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:41,180 I mean, most people come into therapy because there are tense issues. 821 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,580 And if there's anything I've learned during my tenure, it's that humans are 822 00:46:45,580 --> 00:46:46,660 sexual creatures. 823 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:52,560 So I don't like the word normal, but I wouldn't say it's uncommon. 824 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,320 I would say that it's regular. 825 00:47:00,250 --> 00:47:01,430 Okay, I would say that it's common. 826 00:47:01,810 --> 00:47:03,890 Regular and that it's common and it's normal. 827 00:47:16,690 --> 00:47:22,970 Do you like this type of kissing in common at home? 828 00:47:25,610 --> 00:47:26,910 No. No? 829 00:47:27,830 --> 00:47:29,530 I know my mom is such a good kisser. 830 00:47:33,759 --> 00:47:37,960 What a lovely thing to scatter. 831 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,120 Thank you. 832 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,280 You're doing a great job. 833 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:07,320 I'm loving how much you're vocalizing your thoughts and your desires. 834 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,320 That looks like very enthusiastic. 835 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:11,020 Yeah, it would be great if you got undressed. As much as I want to risk 836 00:49:11,020 --> 00:49:14,340 my dress, maybe I'll just take it off. 837 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,240 Oh, yeah. 838 00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:20,780 There you go. That's lovely. 839 00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:30,420 I love this 840 00:49:30,420 --> 00:49:32,700 kind of positive reinforcement and communication. 841 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:34,859 Was that okay? 842 00:49:34,860 --> 00:49:36,640 Yeah, oh my god, that was really good. 843 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,320 Yeah. 844 00:50:28,180 --> 00:50:30,980 Good morning. 845 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,660 Thank you, Mom. 846 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,080 That feels so fucking good. 847 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,740 I like the way you do that, Mom. 848 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,900 It feels wonderful on my... Use your vernacular. 849 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:02,080 Oh, Mom, that was so good. Oh, my God. 850 00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:04,740 Isn't that perfect, Mom? 851 00:51:07,780 --> 00:51:09,580 I'm going to watch all those barriers. 852 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,320 Just break down. 853 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,540 As well they should. 854 00:51:40,650 --> 00:51:41,690 Beautiful woman. 855 00:51:43,470 --> 00:51:49,790 Or that 856 00:51:49,790 --> 00:51:54,370 way, that way is good too. 857 00:52:35,890 --> 00:52:36,890 Fuck, 858 00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:39,930 mom, that feels so fucking good. 859 00:52:40,490 --> 00:52:41,910 Oh, you feel my cock. 860 00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:44,390 Mom, don't you like it? 861 00:53:13,870 --> 00:53:14,890 It's so hard. 862 00:53:15,850 --> 00:53:17,250 It's so hard. 863 00:53:45,130 --> 00:53:49,450 Can you tell me a little bit about why you decided to delete your son? 864 00:53:49,870 --> 00:53:54,530 I just want to help out and make him feel better and get through this process 865 00:53:54,530 --> 00:54:00,990 and just release all that anguish and all the anger goes away. 866 00:54:01,650 --> 00:54:06,700 Maybe we'll have less problems at home and less problems at home. I don't think 867 00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:07,700 I'm going to be as angry anymore. 868 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:10,440 I'm going to ask how that anger is just feeling. 869 00:54:10,700 --> 00:54:13,520 Are you more at a one or are you more at a five? I'm at a one. 870 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:14,840 Yeah. Yeah. 871 00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:20,040 It's easier not to be jealous. And it's easier not to be upset. 872 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,200 You're just getting what you need. 873 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:25,840 Yeah. 874 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,140 Yeah. Yeah. 875 00:54:37,580 --> 00:54:38,580 Yeah. Yeah. 876 00:54:39,740 --> 00:54:40,740 Yeah. 877 00:54:43,660 --> 00:54:45,620 I think I need one of you to sit on my cock. 878 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,700 Sorry? Yeah, I think I need one of you to sit on it. 879 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,080 One of you to sit on it. 880 00:54:52,380 --> 00:54:53,880 Okay, can you be more specific? 881 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:55,860 Both. Oh, both. 882 00:54:56,180 --> 00:54:57,180 Okay. 883 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,600 Well, 884 00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:01,220 how do you feel about that? 885 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,560 I mean, we can try it. 886 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,460 Yeah? What do you think? 887 00:55:05,820 --> 00:55:09,160 I'm here to facilitate communication. 888 00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:12,160 I'm here to facilitate openness. 889 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:18,040 Do you want to take the lead or would you... I can do that. 890 00:55:18,820 --> 00:55:20,200 Would you get him warmed up? 891 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:26,760 Let you ease into it. I'm totally down for letting you take more smaller steps. 892 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,260 And I would love to. 893 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:32,880 Personally. 894 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:34,380 It's very great. 895 00:55:40,779 --> 00:55:41,779 Help me? 896 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,400 Thank you. 897 00:56:06,410 --> 00:56:07,410 Right here. 898 00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:10,830 There we go. 899 00:56:11,090 --> 00:56:13,850 Oh, there we are. 900 00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:25,850 How was that, 901 00:56:25,890 --> 00:56:27,770 sweetheart? Oh, so good. 902 00:56:28,570 --> 00:56:32,210 She has a beautiful body. Very beautiful therapist. 903 00:56:51,180 --> 00:56:52,580 Yeah. 904 00:57:07,660 --> 00:57:08,960 Yeah. Oh, 905 00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:12,180 it's pretty hot. 906 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,900 So good. 907 00:57:19,380 --> 00:57:20,840 Oh, yeah. 908 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,660 Oh, yeah. 909 00:57:39,490 --> 00:57:40,890 Yeah. 910 00:57:46,510 --> 00:57:47,910 Oh, 911 00:57:50,890 --> 00:57:54,710 my gosh. 912 00:58:49,089 --> 00:58:51,070 This is so hot. 913 01:00:10,410 --> 01:00:11,328 Oh, shit. 914 01:00:11,330 --> 01:00:12,770 Oh, fuck, yeah. 915 01:00:13,950 --> 01:00:14,950 Yeah? 916 01:00:16,470 --> 01:00:18,230 Oh. Oh, 917 01:00:19,310 --> 01:00:20,390 my gosh. 918 01:00:21,330 --> 01:00:22,950 She's a great therapist. 919 01:00:23,150 --> 01:00:25,250 I'm so glad we found you. High five, though. 920 01:00:43,790 --> 01:00:47,510 So here's the mention of maybe... Yeah. 921 01:00:47,730 --> 01:00:48,490 There 922 01:00:48,490 --> 01:01:04,810 we 923 01:01:04,810 --> 01:01:08,770 go. 924 01:01:14,350 --> 01:01:17,470 It's the first time that you two are doing this. Oh my gosh. 925 01:01:18,130 --> 01:01:21,250 The experience has gone so fast. 926 01:01:23,970 --> 01:01:30,410 Oh my gosh. 927 01:01:31,590 --> 01:01:33,450 Are you sure this is okay? 928 01:01:33,770 --> 01:01:36,250 Are you sure this is okay? Does it feel okay? 929 01:01:36,610 --> 01:01:39,290 Is there anything you really want to do? 930 01:01:39,530 --> 01:01:40,650 Oh my gosh. 931 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:38,520 Thank you. 932 01:04:16,430 --> 01:04:17,430 She's okay. 933 01:04:18,370 --> 01:04:22,170 Oh, so nice. She's so fucking tight, huh? 934 01:05:09,230 --> 01:05:10,230 Yes, yes. 935 01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:38,470 it's all you you're doing all the work 936 01:07:03,050 --> 01:07:05,210 Somebody's been running with my pussy for a while. 937 01:07:06,350 --> 01:07:07,350 Yeah. 938 01:07:07,930 --> 01:07:08,930 Yeah. 939 01:07:10,870 --> 01:07:12,970 There we go. 940 01:07:13,350 --> 01:07:14,490 Oh, shit. 941 01:07:15,070 --> 01:07:16,070 Yeah. 942 01:07:18,990 --> 01:07:22,490 It's so beautiful to see how you two are connecting. 943 01:07:23,450 --> 01:07:28,150 See how you're opening up and just really becoming in touch with your inner 944 01:07:28,150 --> 01:07:29,150 emotions. 945 01:07:38,730 --> 01:07:39,750 Oh, fuck. 946 01:07:42,030 --> 01:07:43,630 Oh, she's so good. 947 01:07:44,890 --> 01:07:49,990 Here we 948 01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:55,610 go. Oh, 949 01:07:55,710 --> 01:07:57,050 hey, 950 01:07:59,090 --> 01:08:02,470 Mom. That is not a soft little foot. 951 01:08:02,890 --> 01:08:04,570 Oh. 952 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:30,779 Yeah, just like that song. 953 01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:34,500 Yeah, 954 01:11:35,700 --> 01:11:36,700 yeah, yeah, just like that. 955 01:11:37,300 --> 01:11:38,300 That's hot. 956 01:11:38,340 --> 01:11:40,080 Yeah. Oh, fuck. 957 01:11:57,580 --> 01:11:58,660 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. 958 01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:00,740 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. 959 01:12:01,580 --> 01:12:06,220 Oh, my God. 960 01:15:06,739 --> 01:15:09,200 Oh, fuck yeah, just like that, yeah. 961 01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:11,320 Oh, yeah. 962 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,140 Getting a helping hand from the movie. 963 01:15:14,460 --> 01:15:15,460 Yeah. 964 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:48,760 Yeah. 965 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:55,880 Yeah. 966 01:19:36,540 --> 01:19:40,540 I can feel it pulsing. 967 01:19:59,580 --> 01:20:00,580 Oh, yeah. 968 01:20:01,420 --> 01:20:02,420 Oh, 969 01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:05,680 yeah. 970 01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:43,760 I'll get in there. 971 01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:58,680 Yes, baby. 972 01:20:59,700 --> 01:21:02,740 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, you fucking give it to me. 973 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:03,818 Oh, yeah. 974 01:21:03,820 --> 01:21:10,240 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 975 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,180 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 976 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:19,280 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, 977 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,260 yeah. 978 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:32,280 Is there more? 979 01:21:32,500 --> 01:21:33,500 Maybe there's more. 980 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:36,840 Oh, wonderful. 981 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,680 Good job, 982 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:42,180 sweetheart. You feel better? 983 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:43,520 Yeah, I feel better. 984 01:21:45,580 --> 01:21:48,820 Is that nice? I'm connecting right in mommy's face. 985 01:21:49,540 --> 01:21:55,260 I love you. You did great there. Thank you. You did it. 986 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:56,600 So much work. 987 01:21:56,740 --> 01:22:01,760 You were so open. I really appreciate it. I wish all of my clients were this 988 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:05,500 open. I really loved it. Thank you so much for choosing me to be with you on 989 01:22:05,500 --> 01:22:06,640 this journey. So am I, Carrie. 990 01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:11,780 Well, we'll see. What do you think about doing this once a week for check -in 991 01:22:11,780 --> 01:22:12,780 and, you know? 992 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:14,120 Once a week? 993 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:15,320 Yeah. 994 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,160 Once a week. 995 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:19,680 Hour -long appointment. 996 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,280 Work through any other issues that might crop up. 997 01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:29,400 In the meantime, maybe, Billy, see if you can reach out and connect with maybe 998 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,860 some other girls your own age from class or something, but also keep the lines 999 01:22:33,860 --> 01:22:35,840 of communication with your mother open. 1000 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,380 Can you do that for me? Yeah. Yeah? 1001 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:40,500 Yeah. Sound good? 1002 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:41,760 Yeah. Thank you, doctor. 1003 01:22:42,980 --> 01:22:44,300 Would you like a tissue? 1004 01:22:44,540 --> 01:22:45,540 Yeah. 1005 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:51,420 That is great.